Episode 47: Tired Of The Mess? Discover The Power Of Repentance

Jacob Paul: Welcome to the Truth in Love podcast with your hosts Kimberly Faith and John Mac. The Truth in Love podcast seeks to present God’s timeless truth through the lens of his remarkable love.

Kimberly Faith: Wow, dad. We really have been having some good conversations.

John McLarty: We have. Let’s keep it going.

Kimberly Faith: Yeah. And I think we’re living in a time in history, and I think it was Brother Brian that mentioned this maybe last year that there are more people on this earth now than there have been in the whole history of civilization, whatever, you know, at least a known civilization. And with the internet, we truly have the ability to carry the gospel to the uttermost ends of the world. We really do. The more that time I spend

John McLarty: Which was the biblical instruction.

Kimberly Faith: Right. The great commission. And the more I talk to people, one of the most dangerous things I see in Christianity is, and the way the enemy has worked from the inside is to neglect this thing called repentance.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: And it’s so critical. It’s so absolutely critical. And, you know, I’m not going to pretend to know all the reasons it’s critical, but I do know this. Jesus made it very clear, you’re either for me or against me. And repentance, the idea of repentance means to turn from one direction and make a 180 and go the other direction. I don’t know. Do you have a different definition you

John McLarty: No, that’s perfect. Just a 180 turn, turning our life over to God, to repent of our sins.

Kimberly Faith: And so we’re going to talk about that in two different contexts, because first of all, repentance is 100% necessary for salvation. And we talked about an earlier podcast, knowing God, right? And it’s 100% necessary for the salvation transaction to take place. And then it’s also 100% necessary for us to have that intimate relationship with God.

John McLarty: For Christian growth.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. And that goes back to the nature of God. One of God’s aspects of his natures is that he’s righteous. And a righteous God does not remain righteous if he allows sin. And, he can’t violate his own nature any more than I can fly, you know, to the top of that tree because my nature is a human, I’m not a bird.

And, you know, the righteous part of his nature was satisfied, when Jesus died and gave us and paid for our sins so that we could be reconciled to him and enjoy that fellowship. But that transaction doesn’t happen without the gift of repentance being given to us and us taking that gift and putting it to use.

John McLarty: I think this is an important point because there’s kind of a thing today in Christiandom that is called easy believism. It’s not just believe in Jesus, believe that he paid for your sins, but you don’t need to repent.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: And that is so wrong. I like to read this verse. I’d say it’s the shortest sermon Jesus ever gave. It’s Mark 1:15. He said, The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand.

Repent ye and believe the gospel. So you’ve got to repent, which is turn from sin. And that’s part of feeling sorry for your sins, asking for forgiveness, but turning. It’s not like, okay, I’m going to take salvation, but just keep living the same, whether it’s shacking up with somebody or having this problem, being a thief or whatever.

Kimberly Faith: Right. We can’t hold on to the old life and take hold of new life. Acts 3:19 says, Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord. And this is, I think this is such a, it’s such a disservice that we are not talking about repentance in like you said, Christendom. You know, it’s this easy bully, oh, just come as you are and you don’t really have to, you know, you don’t have to change.

You can still hang with your old peeps. You can do And it’s, you know, it’s not that we, you know, when we trust the character of God, he is going to take us on a path that’s so much better. But without repentance, we never get there. 

John McLarty: It’s not like there’s a laundry list of rules. Like, I’ve got to stop this and do this and start going to church. And it’s just this moment of salvation. You’re just repenting. You’re turning it all over to God, whatever that means.

Kimberly Faith:  Well, and it’s so Satan and this world culture even and our own fleshly desires fight so much against that. Like we’re going to miss out if we really leave everything and turn do the 180 towards Christ. We’re somehow going to miss out.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: And, know, I mean, the story of the prodigal son is a great example. You know, he thought his way, taking his inheritance and spending it in riotous living and ended up in the pigsty, you know, even though he didn’t see the pigsty at the time he did that.

John McLarty:  Right.

Kimberly Faith: Repentance gives us that vision of, wow, there’s something better. And the Bible is very clear that repentance is a gift of God. It’s a gift of God. And, you know, for example, in Second Timothy 2:25, it says, If God perhaps will grant them repentance so they may know the truth. Acts 11:18, God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life. And repentance is a gift.

John McLarty: I think that’s important for people to realize that it’s a gift and then it’s something we yield to. But it’s not an idea we came up with. We hear the gospel, God gives us faith, we understand who Jesus is. He died on the cross for our sins. And he gives us that urge to turn.

And I give the example of, I might have an urge at, say, 12:00 at night, I might have an urge to go to the refrigerator and come up with some snack. So that’s an urge. But I can give into it or not give into it.

Kimberly Faith: That’s a good example.

John McLarty: And repentance is that urge. It comes from God, but it’s not overwhelming. It’s 

Kimberly Faith: We’re not forced.

John McLarty: he frees us to make the decision to turn to him because he’s given us repentance. But when we repent, we’re yielding.

Kimberly Faith: It’s not something we generate on our own because our hearts are desperately wicked.

John McLarty: True.

Kimberly Faith: And we can’t generate it on our own. But when we hear the gospel or when we, you know, when God reveals to us who he is and what he offers, whatever that looks like. Because, there’s people I know there are people that have never, you know, read the Bible, but I think that, you know, the Bible talks about how God roams the earth, looking for the person who wants to know him. And however he manifests himself to them, they can repent as well because he will give that to them because he’s so gracious. Repentance is a gracious gift of God that enables us to come to eternal life.

John McLarty: Just as an aside for somebody that’s not saved, is that understanding it’s a gift, and it’s like when you feel that urging, that conviction, it’s very important to say yes. It’s kind of like the fog is cleared. The Lord cleared the fog to make that path of repentance and believing. 

Kimberly Faith: Right.  And it will come back. The fog will come back.

John McLarty: The fog will come back.

Kimberly Faith: Yeah. If you don’t establish that connection. It’s like you’re on a ship in the ocean and you’re looking for land and you can’t see it because the fog and the storms and everything is distracting. You’re trying to survive. Your ship is filling with water and the fog clears and you set your ship on course and you don’t get off course. That’s a really good example, dad, because then when you’re on course, because you’ve connected with the navigation of God through repentance, you said, okay, there’s my course. I want this course and I’m going to stay on this course. Then when the fog returns, not that you’re off course. Because the fog will return. That’s what the world’s culture, one of our enemies, the world culture tries to confuse us. We’ll have circumstances that arise that are more than we can handle.

John McLarty: Yeah.

Kimberly Faith:  People say, Oh, God doesn’t give me more than I can handle. No, that’s not true. God doesn’t give us more than He can handle. Because that goes back to He’s in charge.

When He’s in charge, He’s in charge or He’s not.

John McLarty: The Bible says, Now is the day of salvation. So when you’re, if that opportunity, because that’s of the spirit and that’s good, repentance is a gift. And to say, Well, not today. Kind of like the leader that Paul witnessed to that said, Almost persuaded. 

Kimberly Faith: Yeah.

John McLarty: Thou almost persuaded.

Kimberly Faith: Yeah, right.

John McLarty: Maybe he later on repented, maybe he didn’t. Maybe he died first.

Kimberly Faith: Yeah. And dad, you make a good point. If you’re listening to this podcast and you don’t know if you are born again, because this gift of repentance, the first application is for salvation. And if you don’t know 100% that if you were to die right now, that you would go to heaven, that needs to be reconciled. That needs to be made right now.

I mean, why would you wait if you’re hearing this and you’re unsure today is the day of salvation. And because if your heart is being open to the truth that Jesus died, He came to this earth, He lived a sinless life, He died as a spotless lamb of God and He paid for your sins. And he’s giving you the desire to know him, to turn from what the Bible calls your wicked ways. You know, even if you don’t think you’re wicked, I mean, one sin’s all it takes to separate us from the righteousness of God. Then you need to accept that gift.

That gift of repentance, that clearing of the fog. You know where the land is. You know where the place of safety is. Jesus is offering you his eternal salvation, freedom from eternal death. You can accept his gift of salvation right now.

John McLarty: He’s drawing you.

Kimberly Faith: He’s drawing you.

John McLarty: That’s why I turned it down.

Kimberly Faith: And then there’s, you know, and so true repentance is a divine invitation from It’s, you know, to establish a relationship with the creator, everything we love, everything good. And when we’re born again, and again, this kind of goes to our second level of repentance, which is not for salvation, but for living an abundant Christian life. And when our soul and spirit is born again, we have the nature of Christ in our soul and spirit. And Jesus died for all the sins of every person who’s ever lived and ever will live, which is kind of something we can’t even wrap our mind around. But you can believe me, the torture He went through, He doesn’t want to  cuddle up to any sin.

He doesn’t want to cuddle up to sin in one of the people He’s redeemed or anybody’s sin for that matter. He paid the ultimate price. So, when we’re born again and we are going to have that gift of repentance in us, and that’s the Holy Spirit living in us saying, here’s the right way, here’s what you need to do. But we must listen to that Holy Spirit conviction. You know, Jesus told the church at Laodicea in Revelations  3:19, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore, be zealous and repent.

John McLarty: That’s directed toward Christians.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. That’s directed towards Christians. And the nice thing is, repentance kind of has a bad rap. As if repentance means you’re going to be giving up things that you love.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: Okay? Well, if I repent and turn towards God, I have to quit going to the bars or whatever jolly thing you like to do. It probably isn’t glorifying God. But the thing that we forget, it’s like, would you complain if you were stumbling in darkness and knocking your knees on tables and tripping over objects you couldn’t see and wondering what your life was all about because you’re in this dark place? If you turned around and were able to walk in the light and have a vision of the obstacles, have a vision of the path ahead, have a vision of the goodness of what lay before you, would you complain about that? No, you wouldn’t complain about that because it’d be the difference between walking in light and walking in darkness.

And we start to see our sin like God sees it, that it is more darkness. And if we have Jesus Christ living in us because we’ve been born again, it’s a no brainer. It’s a no brainer. It’s that path of peace.

John McLarty: And I think that’s really important for Christians to realize is that repentance and that repentance that God gives us as Christians is still a gift.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: It’s God correcting us, taking away the path of peace. Not so, He wants to make our life miserable, like you said. He wants to make our life abundant and fruitful. 

Kimberly Faith: Right. And here’s the thing. In an earlier podcast, we talked about building a relationship with God, intimacy with God. When we start to experience the results of repentance, the fruit of repentance, right? Which is intimacy with God. Then we really don’t want to go back. Because that repentance then takes root and builds different desires in our heart. We desire different things. I don’t have any desire to go, you know, get drunk and be crazy because I don’t even have a taste for that anymore.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: Now, there are other sins that I still struggle with, don’t get me wrong, that I know things that I struggle with. But there are some other things that I used to do, you know, I would just easily go do them. But because I have, repentance causes you to develop a different desire, a different heart. You know, I love that Bible verse in Psalms 37:4  that says, if we delight ourselves in the Lord, He will give us the desires of our heart. Because what He does, this isn’t the prosperity gospel.

This is He changes our desires to be more like His desires. So that when we are what repentance does is it changes our desires.

John McLarty:  Right.

Kimberly Faith: Because it’s kind of like when you talk to people who suffer from mental health issues, you know, maybe, they’ve got these grooves in their brain because they were raised in a family that always yelled and screamed at each other. And so, for twenty years, that’s what they heard. And then they get saved or they decide, even if they’re not even born again, their therapist says, you’ve got to cut new grooves in your brain. Well, that’s what repentance does. It cuts new grooves in our desires. We desire to see God glorified and His kingdom come to earth through the souls of the salvation of the souls of people more than we desire to go sit on a beach for a week. Because unless we’re actually carrying out the commission there, our desires are just different.

John McLarty: I think that’s a good point. When we’re born again, our soul is born again. Our spirit is quickened, but our body is the same body.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: And repentance for the Christian is this, that living in that new nature, letting the new man control rather than the old man.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: And that’s a big job. 

Kimberly Faith: Huge. 

John McLarty: People just think, Oh, that’s not a one and done. 

Kimberly Faith: No. 

John McLarty: That’s a daily struggle.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. Because Paul talks about that in Romans Chapter Seven. 

John McLarty: Yeah. 

Kimberly Faith: That when I would do good, evil is present with me. I call it sleeping with the enemy. Where our flesh is no better than the day we were born again. But when we exercise daily repentance in our life, then our soul and spirit become the dominant. In Christ, soul and spirit become dominant and our flesh is put into subjection.

John McLarty:  And it’s interesting because when we teach Bible studies, a lot of times the definition we use for repentance, true repentance, is actually, even though it applies to repentance under salvation, but one of the classic definitions is Romans 7:10 and 11, and it’s talking about repentance for the Christian. Paul in One Corinthians had kind of scolded them about a bunch of things. So they got right with God, the church, Christians. He said, For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation, not to be repented of, but the sorrow of the world worketh death. For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it rode in you, what clearing of yourself, what indignation, what fear, what the imminent desire, what zeal, what revenge, in all things you have approved yourself to be clear in this matter. So, the Corinthians didn’t just kind of turn from the sins Paul had pointed out. They turned to 180.

Kimberly Faith: Right. Right. And we read the verses about how it leads us into a time of refreshing. We talked about that in Acts 3:19. Times of refreshing come from the presence of the Lord. It’s more than what we’re losing or giving up. It’s what we’re gaining. And again, going back to how He changes our desires. It’s kind of like if your whole life you thought that rice and beans was the best meal you ever had, And then you’re introduced to steak. Like, you know, an eight ounce filet mignon, I like to call it filet mignon, cooked medium rare, you know, with just the right spices. You don’t want to go back to the rice and beans. You might, you know, once in a while, and that’s not a perfect example. But when you’ve had the best, second best is never good enough.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: And certainly when you’ve had, like the prodigal son we mentioned earlier, when you’ve been eating, you know, with the pigs, you don’t want to go back there. I kind of like rice and beans, that’s a bad example. But if you’ve been eating pig stalks and you go back to your father’s table, the contrast is so It’s a no brainer.

John McLarty: So Christian repentance is synonymous with dying to self.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: Because self will is of the flesh because the soul is now born again. So repentance is just, you might say, continually putting aside the flesh.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: The old man.

Kimberly Faith: You’re escaping the prison of sin and you’re exchanging it for the presence of peace. I think that one of the failings is that we just teach repentance is losing something, but it’s not gaining something better. We’re really failing to understand the scripture when we talk about what does the presence of peace look like. Well, that’s the presence of God. And God’s the more we know God’s character and that He loves us more than we love ourselves.

He loves us more than we love our grandchildren, our children, our spouse. He loves us so much he gave everything. When we get to know Him, we recognize that what we’re giving up is nothing compared to what we’re getting. And that’s to me the key to understanding repentance as a born again believer. You don’t have to meddle in the pig stocks anymore. You don’t have to do that.

John McLarty: Why wouldn’t we want the best?

Kimberly Faith: Right. Why wouldn’t we

John McLarty: The best of what God has to offer.

Kimberly Faith: Honestly, I think the reason we don’t want the best, and this is just my analysis of my own life,  it’s because we don’t know the nature of God. We don’t understand the character of God. We don’t know God for who he is. We know God for who the world tells us he is, who the enemy tells us he is, who we have formed our own opinion of who he is based on all the lies we’ve been told. If all that somebody that just met me knew about me was what my enemy told them, well, I would be having to climb out of the hole.

That’s what we do to God, even as born again believers. And I’m guilty of this. If we really desired God for who he is, then we would desire God with the most passion of anything else we desire. And that’s the goal. That’s what God wants for us. He wants us to see how good he is and how much he offers us. Repentance gives us that.

John McLarty: The Bible’s full of We know God is love, but I’m just looking in a lot of the references to God in the Psalms, his loving kindness.

Kimberly Faith: It’s better than life.

John McLarty: It’s not just that He loved us and pulled us out of the miry clay and set us up on the banks and see you later. Have a great life. He wants to show us his loving kindness. And that’s through us yielding to him. Repentance is just kind of letting him bless us. And again, it’s not material things being poured out on us, but just to have an exciting, abundant life.

Kimberly Faith: I think the Psalmist said, Your loving kindness is better than life. Therefore, my lips will praise you. And I probably just paraphrasing it. But when we like when you fell in love with mom, you probably couldn’t shut up about her. You know?

John McLarty: Right. 

Kimberly Faith: I mean, when we fall in love with God, we can’t shut up about him because his loving kindness is better than life.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: We want to praise him. And if our life is not characterized by the praise and worship of God, and again, I’m not talking about going to church and singing a hymn. I’m talking about, He’s what we can’t shut up about. He’s what we think about. He’s what our life manifests.

You know, when somebody says to me, do you ever talk about anything besides God? I’m like, well, yeah, of course I do. But God is the best thing in my life. So why wouldn’t I talk about him?

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: You know, why wouldn’t I talk about the context of a great, you know, horseback ride up at 10,000 feet in the mountains in the context of God blessed me with this? Because He did. He is the reason I got to get on the horse. He’s the reason I’m breathing. He’s the reason I have eyes to see, ears to hear, senses to perceive the beauty of a beautiful valley covered in flowers. He created the flowers. 

John McLarty: Amen. 

Kimberly Faith: And so repentance is a gift as born again believers. It takes us to that high Colorado River Valley 

John McLarty: With abundant life.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. And helps us understand that we are going to praise God because he is the reason for all the love, all the joy, all the peace, all the anxiety free living. And when I say anxiety free, I don’t mean that we don’t have anxiety, but rather that God handles it. You know, Jesus cast all your cares on me because I care for you. And again, I’m paraphrasing. He said, you know, that we’re supposed to give him our burdens and because he does our life better than we do. And repentance opens that door.

John McLarty: Right.

Kimberly Faith: And we walk through it. And finally, we’re letting God control our life. And he just does our life better than we do.

John McLarty: And you know, when I see Christians, and this isn’t to build myself up or Lynn up, because we’ve had the advantage of a tremendous church for forty nine years. And we were just discipled and we were just to talk to live for God, and we did. And the Lord’s given us abundant life. But I’ve seen Christians up close and personal walk away from God and they just say, Well, I’m just not living for God right now. And their life is miserable.

Kimberly Faith: Yes. 

John McLarty: It’s a disaster.

Kimberly Faith: It’s a desert.

John McLarty: And I just feel so burdened. 

Kimberly Faith: Yeah.

John Mclarty:  But then you look at their life, there’s just some obvious sins in their life. God just says, don’t do that.  And do that.

Kimberly Faith: A lot of it’s unforgiveness. 

John McLarty: Yeah. Or it could be bitterness.

Kimberly Faith: Right.

John McLarty: And it’s just so

Kimberly Faith: It’s like you’re hanging onto the stalks.

John McLarty: You just want the abundant life for everybody.  God wants the abundant life for everybody.

Kimberly Faith: He does.

John McLarty: And repentance is part of that.

Kimberly Faith: It is.

John McLarty: Living in repentance.

Kimberly Faith: I’m thinking of you know, some struggles I’ve had and I bring up unforgiveness just because it’s such an easy thing to do. We think we’ve forgiven, but we haven’t, you know, and someone offends us deeply and we hold onto that and we stay in that pigsty. And because they need to come to us. They need to be the ones who initiate this. And that’s not what the Bible says.

Jesus says, leave your gift at the altar and come and make it right. And if they decide not to make it right, then you’re free. But I mean, again, anything you’re struggling with, that’s taking you back to the pigsty. And that’s just such a good example. Just, you know, I, as a person who’s been in the pigsty a lot of my life, a lot of my Christian life will tell you, and I say this all the time and I mean every word of it, I would rather be dead than live in the pigsty again. I would. The presence of God is so refreshing. And don’t delay the restoration of your joy. Don’t delay it. There’s no reason for it.

John McLarty: And I think that’s a great point because if you’re living out of the will of God and your life’s miserable, you can repent in a second.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: You don’t like to, Oh, it’s going to be this month long process. It’s like you just let the Lord speak to your heart. You ask for forgiveness. You yield to him and it’s done.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. And it kind of brings up, if you’ve got kids and one of your children has strayed and let’s say offended you or done something and walked away from the relationship and you’re estranged. Jesus said, you know, if you, being evil, know how to give good gifts, how much more does heavenly father, and I’m paraphrasing. If we love our child like God loves our child, even one inkling, and that child were to walk through our door and say, You know what? I’m really sorry. What parent wouldn’t just run to that child, again, the prodigal son, and say, I’m so glad you’re back.

John McLarty: That’s a great example.

Kimberly Faith: I’m so glad you’re back.

John McLarty: And we wouldn’t say, Oh, you need to grovel and do penance and wash dishes for a month. 

Kimberly Faith:  Right. We wouldn’t do that because if we love that child the way God loves us. 

John McLarty: Good point. 

Kimberly Faith: I think that if we look at God that way and understand that if he gave his only son for us, he gave the ultimate price for us. Of course, if we walk back through that door, repent, he’s going to take us back he’s going to build us back to the relationship. Sure, it’s going to  take time because there are things we’re going to have to get right. I think about relationships that I’ve had in the past where I’ve had to go back and say, You know what? I’m really sorry for this. And if that person was walking with God, they were just so glad.

John McLarty: Yeah. God forgives immediately, but yeah, we might have amends

Kimberly Faith: It’s that things get not on God’s part. It’s not on God’s part. It’s on us. We have these grooves we put in our brain, ways of thinking about God that are unhealthy, that we need to correct. We may have habits that we developed while we were walking outside God’s will that we, unfortunately, because we still have our flesh and it’s very imperfect, it’s sinful, we’re going to  have to discipline ourselves.

Just like if you’re an athlete and you decide to spend a year eating carbs and not exercising, well, you  may repent of that, you’re going to have some work to do to get back into your world class athlete state. And I think repentance the thing is, if you’re born again, then you already have what you need from God because you have Christ’s spirit in your soul and spirit.

John McLarty: Yeah. And that’s a good point because we’re talking about you repent and believe for salvation. You’re born again. And Christian repentance isn’t about you’ve lost your salvation, you gain it, you lose it, you gain it. You’ve lost that connection with God.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right.

John McLarty: Not your salvation, but that path of peace.

Kimberly Faith: Right. You’re God’s child, but he’s in the kitchen and you’re out in the yard. And you didn’t come back through the front door. Right? 

John McLarty: Good.

Kimberly Faith: So, well, I’m glad that we had this discussion, dad. This is I think this is a really

John McLarty: Very important.

Kimberly Faith: Yeah. Super important. If you know? And if you’re struggling with, you know, feeling the presence of God in your life and you have been born again, this isn’t rocket science. 

John McLarty: No.

Kimberly Faith: God wants you back. You know? You just need to turn away

John McLarty: You’re a child of God. He wants you back.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. You’re one of His. If you’re not saved, He wants you. He created you in His image for a relationship with you. Repentance is a gift. It’s a gift. It’s a very valuable gift. It’s not a penance. 

John McLarty: Right. 

Kimberly Faith: It’s a gift.

John McLarty: Don’t turn your nose up at it.

Kimberly Faith: That’s right. And it will lead you into the promises of God. And so, yeah, this has been good, dad.

John McLarty: This has been great Kim.

Kimberly Faith: Yeah. I’m glad we had this discussion.

John McLarty: We need to do more of this.

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